Realignment Super Thread
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BigGreenTruck
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From 1979 the inception of most college soccer programs and when Marshall started to 2011 Marshall had 12 winning seasons. In 2003 the men's soccer program was the equivalent of a condemned prisoner's red phone going off. The then AD was 24 hours away from cutting the sport. The asst AD (former Marshall soccer player) leaked it to the papers in Charleston and Huntington. The firestorm it brought from the papers and soccer community made it to where he couldn't drop it. Unfortunately a program had to be cut to get Title IX compliant and Men's Track and Field was cut.
In 2011 Mike Hamrick the AD unveiled a plan to build an 8.3 million dollar soccer complex. A lot of people were scratching their heads and thought Hamrick lost his mind. They thought that money should either go back into football or basketball. Hoops Family Field opened in the fall of 2013, Chris Grassie (HC DII Universty of Charleston, 46 miles east of Huntington) was hired in Jan of 2017 and Marshall had a National Title in the spring of 2021 (Recognized as the 2020 National Champions).
So it only took 8 years from opening Hoops Family Field to have a national title, not bad.
Same. For quite a while SMU was the only varsity program in the state (UTRGV, UIW, HBU added) , so I always felt like there was ample opportunity to capture the talent that was headed out of state every year.
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Goldievirtuoso
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“to get Title IX compliant”
This is probably the reason we don’t have men’s soccer. I too wish we had this sport, I think it would do really well in San Marcos. Maybe the AD will reconsider it one day.
This is probably the reason we don’t have men’s soccer. I too wish we had this sport, I think it would do really well in San Marcos. Maybe the AD will reconsider it one day.
We could go off on a long tangent about Title IX, but my understanding is that TXST is always going to be a bit upside down, as we're a roughly 60% female school with a football team.
It's also my understanding that because we're at the minimum number of sports fielded (16) required for FBS schools, we're OK w/ the imbalance in actual scholarship numbers from a compliance standpoint. All that is to say that I don't understand how any of this works, other than the idea that there must be equal scholarship numbers for each gender is nowhere close to true.
An institution is in compliance with the three-part test if it has met any one of the following three parts of the test: (1) the percent of male and female athletes is substantially proportionate to the percent of male and female students enrolled at the school; or (2) the school has a history and continuing practice of expanding participation opportunities for the underrepresented sex; or (3) the school is fully and effectively accommodating the interests and abilities of the underrepresented sex.
It's also my understanding that because we're at the minimum number of sports fielded (16) required for FBS schools, we're OK w/ the imbalance in actual scholarship numbers from a compliance standpoint. All that is to say that I don't understand how any of this works, other than the idea that there must be equal scholarship numbers for each gender is nowhere close to true.
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BigGreenTruck
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Men's soccer only has 9.9 scholarships. It's one of the few sports in IA that you can give partial scholarships in.
To be fair, those people have no clue what's going on here, much less outside their state.
ODU finished at 145 in the last Director's Cup, so they're decent overall.
119 ARST
133 ULL
151 GASO
166 TXST
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SWTRefugee
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Welcome to the Belt. I did business with Huntington Alloys/Inco in the mid- 80’s and have been impressed with your school and fan base ever since. I wish our fans were 10% as engaged as yours. I also ate at Bob Preutt’s Steakhouse about 10 yrs ago. Very good. Glad to have a team of Marshall’s stature in the conference.
SWTRefugee
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Agree. Nothing to get fired up about and another regional no-name school that will kick our ass.
Txst12
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Looking back on this, your Baylor take was and still is horrible. Baylor now sitting at 7-1, just knocked off UT as well as a couple ranked opponents already. They’re about to be a top 10-15 team.
Not sure how it was horrible. I was using Baylor as an example as to how being ranked isn't really indicative of being good. I stand by that.
Texas is a bad football team and the two teams Baylor has beaten that were ranked at the time may not be ranked tomorrow - Iowa State certainly won't.
Is Baylor better today than they were a month ago? Yeah. Are they legit good? Ehhh...remains to be seen, but I'll wait until they've played OU and OKST to concede that one.
franslasttwinkie
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I somehow thought they did play and it was fairly competitive….
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You have a very strict view in what makes a good team good. My own view is that good teams beat shitty teams on a consistent basis. Shitty sometimes win and sometimes struggle vs other shitty teams. Pathetic teams such as TXST may get lucky one or twice a season.